Do we know if we are done with layoffs for a while? I thought the last round was it at least for the foreseeable future, but then I saw a few people mention more incoming layoffs and I am no longer sure. Do we have any information on possible layoffs or is it just in the realm of speculation right now?
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Can someone let the NY Manager that we allow most HO jobs to perform virtually, so a “HO move” means nothing to most employees.
I’m a HO guy with the “fluff job” (60 hour weeks) who doesn’t care for “kook aid”, and when “HO moves”, (stupid statement if you know anything about our organization) I’ll either move with it, or find another job.
That miserable idiot actually believes Trump is driving the stock market. Fool.
Crap, you still work here, worse yet, you lead people ? So, you hate the “lifers”. (long term loyal tenured employees) as well as the millennials (our future) ?
What a miserable existence you lead.
Must be nice grandpa or grandma when didn't need 2 degrees and designations and extra work and you got defined benefit pension, there is NO way you would last a month in current culture you'd want to know where paper is. Omg I had some grandma peer that used index cards to track her work and took disability every couple years, you lifers are clueless and btw if Allsate fails don't depend on the pension benefits guarantee Corp ask Detroit city employees so you better start hoping culture changes to support employees because as economy improves I'm seeing people jump ship from Allstate utopia and take employees with them! Go for it !
I am manager in east coast, QF will cause increase in fraud like never see but because of the WWII army mgt thinking still at Allstate they didn't ask for any input. "You're in good hands"? Who was millennial in HO that got promotion for making that mandatory phone response. ok all ho kook aid drinkers pile on you guys are so out of touch with the producers and cost containers (claims) that pay for your fluff jobs and your day is coming when HO moves. I'm here because in a CI meeting a valued employee said either troll or worse, real managers were posting how great everything is.
Hey Mr. Shapiro didn't you get run out of Liberty Mutuals commercial division because you wrecked it? Oh guess no one did research on that.
Stock market is booming because of our president nothing to do with CI nonsense and answering the phone your in good hands. The workers on this board are more in touch with true culture than the thr supposed mangers. Quit all of you yes-people and go join army which is what Allstate culture was based on.
Nikki has outlined quite a business strategy below. He should be teaching business courses.
I’m a leader that has 3 adjuster openings, because we’re growing policyholders and have more claims than we did 6 months or a year ago. Still handling the same amount of claims through QFC and VA.
I have good technicians lining up to interview. Thanks for the advice.
Nikki has serious issues.
What a pathetic excuse for a company. They layed off a bunch of adjusters in Atlanta and now are calling them back because they realized VA and QFC are a joke. Then the ones they called back were informed they had pay their severance back. Allstate got the the finger from many of the workers layed off. Now they have such a bad reputation they have to offer sign on bonuses to get people to work. Glen Shapiro has ruined Allstate like he didn’t Liberty Mutual. Also beware of Allstate’s DE division. These people are idiots and only create a negative environment where everything you do is scrutnized and micromanaged. They will not let you succeed. None of the DE especially their manger are capable of doing anything else. The entire department is there to Control raises and build files to remove high paid quality adjusters to hire idiot college kids that can be brainwashed. STAY AWAY
Thanks Glen! You ruined safco and liberty and now us! It will fail! Say you are compassionate about the reduction of force while families are impacted. While you sit in your nice little seat in home office. You have to live with that!
Well, I’m back to the body shop! Tried doc and it’s horrible! Customer service is not in mind what so ever! You sit in a cube with a headset and meant to be a machine essentially. The goals increase everyday and processes change every day. No stability at all. Allstate could care less about anyone besides the stock holding. I would never work for them again. You are just an sap number!
Married to the same woman for 35 years. Several well adjusted and successful children, thanks for asking. As for enjoying my pension, I plan on it, and it’s a number you can’t begin to understand. Yes, that’s what happens when you work hard, make positive contributions to the company, changing it for the better, and staying positive.
As for you, enjoy life back in the body shop !
Why is this such a surprise to you ? I’ve been with the company 37 years, through 6 Chief Claim Officers, and I NEVER assumed I had a “job for life”. I’ve worked in regions where we almost shut down, did layoffs, and I moved to another state. I’ve always assumed if they didn’t need me because they found a more efficient way, I’d have to find something else to do.
No one promised you a job for life. Why is this such a shock to you ???
Such a bunch gullible, or naive, idiots. I have worked for this company for years. I am disgusted at where things are going. Morale is in the toilet. Customers are disgusted with QFC, what a joke. Only a few years left and I'm done. Hear this and get this straight: THERE IS NO JOB SECURITY !! The minute Shapiro and company determine you to be a liability, and technology to be an asset, YOUR A-- IS GONE !!!!! It is just that simple. Maybe not quite yet, but eventually.
Yes you should trust the CCO absolutely you will be fine! good for you! Many years of Allstate career progression are in front of you. Good Luck.
Drink kool aid roflmao clear you are LIFERS. You guys are AWESOME employees and will get your come umpantch.
sure, sure... people are going to say things that may be untrue. So what?. It happens all the time, just watch the news. My point is that by you typing out your "corrections" to the lies, it has no effect on those people relaying the rumors/lies (other than making you feel better?).
Here's my take: I currently work at A/S. I don't believe everything I read or hear. I am kind of concerned about the future of the line of work I am in, but not to the point of panicking and spreading rumors. I like to read this site not necessarily because of the information, but because I see that there are people who are truly concerned, and they may not know how to verbalize those concerns. Better yet, most people do not know how to "focus" those concerns. So yes, it seems as though their concerns may come out as "rumors" or "lies".
Instead of berating people for being concerned (regardless of how they express it), why not deal with the root cause (... threw some CI in there!). So instead of just "calling out lies", why not start educating people on how this industry is changing, how jobs are changing, and getting people focused on moving forward?
After reading many posts and speaking to many people in this industry, I find that the main issue is just lack of understanding (on both sides). Employees need to understand why things change and how things change. Corporate needs to understand that most employees do not understand that last sentence.
Here is an approach that you may take with someone instead of just calling out a lie and calling that poster names like "moron":
Acknowledge that they are concerned about future layoffs (or position eliminations)
Use your knowledge of corporate direction to help them take a look at their current role and what that may look like in the future within this rapidly changing industry.
Understand that what you perceive to be a rumor or a lie is just frustration from someone who does not have a broad understanding of things.
Offer to help them
Those who are agitated and will not listen, will not listen no matter what you say... and you cannot change their minds...so go back to step one above and educate the minds that can be changed.
If you are being directed by corporate to post here, then please let corporate know that many claims employees go to work each day with an extra layer of stress that has nothing to do with rumors or lies...they are just unsure and lack understanding of what is happening in this industry.
Here is a good example of how many employees feel:
We had an application "glitch" the other day that affected over 300 employees from being able to perform their job. I received numerous calls, texts, and emails all with the same theme: "are we losing our job today?"... "is this how we find out?"... These people are not all conspiracy theorists. They are smart, hard working people. Some of them were joking, some were actually concerned. But corporate needs to ask themselves why would a simple computer glitch cause so many to worry about their jobs. It is because whether the threat of more layoffs is real or not, there are many people worried. Is there a productive way that corporate can address these concerns so that every computer glitch going forward does not increase the sale of blood pressure medication?
Again, I do not believe every rumor or lie, but I'm not going to remodel my kitchen right now either. Things are changing too fast. There is a possibility that Allstate heads may not even know if more layoffs (or position eliminations) are in the foreseeable future. You can't assure everyone (currently employed here) that their position will not be eliminated at some point in the future. I believe that the best path is to educate, not berate.
You don’t need to concern yourself about my ability to comprehend, in fact I don’t disagree with much of what you said. That said, posters that knowingly post falsehoods & lies (no way of knowing if they’re active employees, in fact several have identified themselves as disgruntled retirees...... not active employees seeking information), and create unfounded rumor churn and angst in an employee group looking for legitimate information, should be called out.
Just curious...so PUnbS65-8lwb and PUnbS65-8tfk (could be same poster?) I think it is great that you feel like you need to be the truth police here, but if none of these concerns are "real", then why do you even bother to post here? When most logical thinking people hear falsities that are of no real concern to them, they do not go on a moral jihad about that subject. They simply go on and live out whatever truth is known to them.
Are you going to change anyone's mind about concerns over potentially losing their job(s)?
So then what is your purpose? It is kind of like spewing rhetoric about political views on social media; the people who agree with you will say "yea!" and the people who disagree will say "boo!".
If folks are concerned about their employment at this company, let them be concerned. Everyone must find their own path. Fear of losing a job can be good. It can push people in new directions and help them to achieve things they otherwise might not have. Job complacency, which is what you are recommending, is not always the best line of thinking.
If rumors of layoffs (due to position eliminations or whatever) are false, then only time will fulfill that truth. You only fuel any potential conspiracies by rebuking anyone who is concerned about their job.
If you have the ability to comprehend any of this, then you should be able to find a better purpose in your own life (maybe even your job) to expend your time and energy and you should not feel a desideratum to keep commenting on this site.
...if not, then insert more meaningless commentary here: ______
(the only other logical reason you keep commenting here is that corporate is directing you to do so...it that's the case, keep it up then...wouldn't want you to lose your job!)
“Thread regarding Allstate Corp Layoff’s”........that’s the name of the site, moron, and the lead question in this thread is “Any more Layoff’s at Allstate ?”..... not job eliminations, LAYOFFS. Moron.
Did they make you watch anything today ? Moron.
Hey moron, who said anything about a layoff? He said 170 jobs will be eliminated. Big difference. A lay off, they sit you in a room, and tell you you're being let go. Elimination is when people leave, and they don't fill the position and pawn the work off to other people. Who said claims? You just assume things and jump to conclusions. Did you say you were a manager?
He is a liar. I don’t know who he’s talking about, but NO ONE in Claims said anything about a 170 employee layoff.
Who said what ?
And, what company do you work for ? I don’t work for a company that “makes me watch” anything. What are you, a 5 year old ?
You’re a liar.
The big man said it himself in the video conference they made us watch the other day. 170 job will be eliminated.
Oh, I see. I made a mistake. And the illiterate one wants to challenge me to a grammar contest ?
I’ve followed your posts, and it gives me a headache.
You wrote “are” instead of “ our”. I get it.
What ? Your point ?
"If you’re “training them in India”, then you should know what are objective and intent is for that group, and we have been transparent about that group. If you’re going to spread rumors contrary to what we’ve said our intent is, then you shouldn’t be involved in this work.m ** then you should know what OUR objective and intent is for that group. So happy you're a manager with that piece of paper! Your grammar is superior!
What is APC ????? What part of Claims ???
Yes APC has been told it will close in 2018. About 200 jobs gone print and fulfillment to be done outside. Not rumor fact.
If these are really managers on this site saying “no” to possible layoff’s why would you be telling them to stay off ? The question was “ will there be more”......if they have information, I think we need it.
Hey, koolaid drinker: do you think I care if I lose my job if its to India or NC or Dallas or Northbrook or Ireland? I wish anyone with supervisory/mgt duties would go back to your ivory tower and quit posting on this board, because you: 1) dont care about staff (you admit it here) 2) WANT to increase your stock price (hey band Ds above you do all get stock correct?) 3) Are in the dark as much as worker bees who allow you to have a job. Be grateful that us worker bees keep you employed thru our blood, sweat and tears because this board has only confirmed what I thought: those who are supposed to "lead" and "inspire" at our company dont.
The managers posting here are so toxic I wish they would quit their jobs, and we could get rid of the overly bloated middle managment of Allstate and THEN you would stock skyrocket above 100/share.
Never posted before but whatever.
Glad you’ve acknowledged being a rumor monger. Finally.
This site is specifically for rumors, read the directions at the top. If you don’t like it the YOU shouldn’t be here!
If you’re “training them in India”, then you should know what are objective and intent is for that group, and we have been transparent about that group. If you’re going to spread rumors contrary to what we’ve said our intent is, then you shouldn’t be involved in this work.m
the following article is very good and explains where the industry is headed:
here is an excerpt from article:
" (For example, Allstate this summer told investors it’d laid off 500 employees after switching to photo-estimating; going to Tractable’s AI could mean even more layoffs from the desk review ranks.)"
There is always potential for more layoffs. Not really a matter of "if"...but "when".