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Only no. 67? The "consulting" check must have been lost in the mail.
Cisco was great place to work, not complaining about what I made at all.
Do not settle and stay for the money, if money is a big portion of your decision.
If you are motivated, keep your skills sharp, and constantly push yourself, there are places looking for genuine work ethic. The tough part is the length of time to find those places.
I left and founds a job making 20% more within two months.
I highly value my time at Cisco, but if you are feeling like you are going against the work ethic that brought you to this point, and are staying because of the money; push yourself out of that comfort zone.
You could work elsewhere, and then come back to Cisco making much more than if you would have stayed the same five years or so while back on the outside.
No right or wrong answer. Lots out there. Keep pursuing your options. Push yourself.
I believe there is a good reason for Cisco to skew MUCH higher than it should and it all boils down to the "we are part of the Cisco Family" culture. Employees have started to treat their jobs like a dysfunctional family relationship.
For many groups, the pay is higher than the work truly deserves (not necessarily easy, but also not cutting edge or extremely challenging). After a while, technical skills stagnate or become narrowly focused. At that point it can become difficult to leave, so you stay in the relationship and watch your network become more and more meshed into a closed system and all of your friends work in the same location doing the same thing for 5, 10 or even 20 years.
This is then misinterpreted as a great place to work since the work is easy, you are good at it, and everyone you like is there with you. It creates an odd sense of loyalty that makes it hard to leave unless forced.
The systemic politics is just part of that relationship where all the children are vying for the love of the parent. Layoffs are just the parents throwing the kids out of the house after they graduated. Once you are finally thrown out, you basically have no network and friends that have a hard time hanging out since their world is so closed around "the family".
Even to the point that Cisco hires an transition firm for layoffs that prioritize finding jobs with Cisco partners. That way you can stay in the Cisco extended family and sell the crap they produce - and many take that option out of necessity or the same stupid loyalty that got them into the position. Others spend months rehabbing their technical skills and just trying to emotionally break free from them.
Honestly, the entire place is run more like a cult than a business. There is no wonder those that work there believe it is the greatest place ever - until they finally break free then they realize just how toxic it really was.
The ONE good thing about these never-ending layoffs is that Cisco is slowly destroying its own cult - another couple of years (5 at the outside) and they won't have enough stupid loyal engineers to keep the cycle continuing.
You'd think that a company that lays off 20,000 - 30,000 is not an ideal place to work.
How about the constant re-orgs?
anybody who posts negative about cisco is "cynical".. but the fact that FB, goog and others dont even appear in the list, is not of significance.
No wonder all the candidates are running to FB, Goog... because those companies are "not good enough to be in this list".. LOL
Hard to believe!
In the glassdoor ratings, Facebook are number 1, Cisco 89, and we know that Cisco astroturf glassdoor.
Because they probably don’t participate in this sham.
I wonder why Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Microsoft didn't make the list.