Thread regarding DeVry Inc. layoffs

Walk away from DeVry, NOW

If all you disgruntled employees really want to get back at Adtalem, then just walk off the job or get the blue flu and stop showing up. THen you can watch all C suite execs really panic. Hell, you’re all going to lose your jobs anyway. Move on with your lives.

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Once upon a time, not all that long ago, we had four tightly-packed rows of chairs on stage at graduation. Now we have two rows, spread thinly across the width of the stage, and they're not even full. The only way we can maintain the illusion of having enough faculty to run a legitimate university is to require every one of them to be present.

Man, no imagination! Let’s get some inflatable dummies up there in academic attire. Or cardboard cut outs that say Insert Faculty Here...

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TZ has just ordered a decree that all full-time faculty must now attend all graduation ceremonies

...for what purpose? To tell the students how much money & time they wasted?

Or maybe it's one time everyone gets free cake & they can claim it as an employee perk.

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, you know why he's doing it, right? Did you see the last couple of ceremonies? The population on stage is sparse these days. Once upon a time, not all that long ago, we had four tightly-packed rows of chairs on stage at graduation. Now we have two rows, spread thinly across the width of the stage, and they're not even full. The only way we can maintain the illusion of having enough faculty to run a legitimate university is to require every one of them to be present. It's all about appearance, especially now that we want to make Cogswell happy with what they're getting.

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Sorry for the typo-I meant faculty!

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TZ has just ordered a decree that all full-time faculty must now attend all graduation ceremonies-different from his last decree that we could either choose the January OR summer ceremony. Also, he's considering adding a third graduation ceremony, so we would be required to go to all 3.

So much absolute power for one incompetent (and, impertinent) person to have over so many competent and dedicated faulty.

IMPEACH!!!

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Well said

I am now embarrassed to say I ever worked at Devry. I first hired on thinking it was still the school that was well known for being a great school for a technical-type education. By the time I left I could not get out of there quick enough. I had stayed to help students but now I realize my staying was enabling the company to screw students over. That place had strong koolaid.

Adtalem is the same thing just a different name. If the managers haven't changed then they will continue the same sketchy practices for money. Students are not their priority

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AK must have hired some fiction writer to write her bs upbeat emails these days.

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Having been away from DV for awhile I can honestly say I had some hesitation about even working for DV before I got the job offer. Then I saw how all the people who worked there wanted to help students aucceed. Remember their “We’re Seeious about Success”? They were recruiting high school students and the classrooms of the dozen schools they had were flush with students bright and early every morning. Each term we would enroll 500 students (or more at some locations). By the time I left several years ago the halls of any location was like a ghost town. There were very few, if any, high school students enrolled. The larger “anchor” locations struggled to enroll 2 dozen students. Instead DV went after “adults” and vets who had a guaranteed source of revenue. In essence, the schools were nothing like they were. DV lost its focus. It was no longer a technical school, but just another also-ran like UoP.

I was always told DV was a different proprietary school. We did things right and ethically. Maybe we did. Or maybe I just drank koolaid and wanted to believe it because it made me feel morally clean. I just know I am embarrassed for what has become of the schools. But if you lie and cheat about what is really happening then you deserve to go out of business. Sad thing is the same thing is probably still happening at all the other institutions Adtalem owns. I was once a very outspoken advocate for for-profit schools. But my decision has changed. Especially for public ally held for profit schools.

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If you plot revenge, first dig two graves. But there is a difference between seeking vengeance and simply telling one's best truths: I left on my own terms. I couldn't take the shoddy treatment of managers, their prevarications, their outright lies, their LACK of ethical core. The institution was equally money grubbing and worked the vein until it petered out. I have nothing to say of faculty who predated the schema, doing as little as possible for their pay, for I do not know any faculty like that. I defend faculty who worked hard, did their best for students and their families, because other options were not present to them. Perhaps there are no guilty individuals--even DH may have his narrative--but the system failed, was not ethical, duped many, abused many others, and deserves to wither.

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I have no problem at all with DeVry. Teaching online for them allowed me to retire quite well, and years before it would have been possible without DeVry (and a few others, now gone: ITT, Everest).

I wish them all well. I'm not about to 'get back' at anyone.

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You're right...I'm leaving this year. I'm going out on my own terms. And ending a career by trying to sabotage the institution is unprofessional. That's not who I am, or what I want to be remembered for.

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It’s sad. Fostering a bad work ethic is not the answer. Our paychecks never bounced. So go to work and do your best. The chips will fall however they may. But we are better than those who led us to ruin. Karma is the equalizer.

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Maybe just start telling the students to ask HQ when things will be closing up.

Aren't the students concerned about the downfall?

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Yeah they should totally just walk away from a regular paycheck while searching for another job, disqualify themselves from unemployment, and lose out on potential severance pay if they ever get laid off. All for spite! You're an idiot.

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