Thread regarding University of Phoenix layoffs

Getting credit for the Reg

Making Regs has always been part of the job requirement for enrollment. Now, if your REG (enrolled student) fails the first class you no longer get credit for the REG. If "too many" of your students fail the first class it is now your responsibility and you will be Written Up to termination. It is policy! You are held liable for your students doing their work. Its ridiculous absolutely insane. As an EC my only tool is to give the student a reminder call to do homework if they do it or not is not in my control so why do I have to pay the price if he or she cant keep up or doesn't want to do the work (buyers remorse). Many students fail on the first try because attending online is never what they pictured in their mind not to mention the caliber of our students is very very poor. They can barely fill out application alone let alone write a non-plagiarized paragraph. (SMH) UOPX is stupid

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Has any Enrollment Advisor's in the last 2 -3 years received a Discussion Memo and/or a Written Warning for enrolling a student and they dropped out in their first class and you did all of your weekly retention calls and you have great work performance as far as retention and very few of your students have dropped out in the last few years?? We are pursing a civil lawsuit against University of Phoenix and you have rights. If a student drops out you are not held accountable if you did all of your retention calls. Please share your experiences. This is totally confidential.

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Faculty, my own experience is similar to yours. When we compare our experience to what Enrollment Advisors are describing in another thread, the bigger picture starts to emerge. We faculty often scratch our heads and wonder why advisors are telling students to ask for accommodations. We think, don't the ER's know better? Well, yes, I'm sure they do, but they are motivated by something else--the need to get students through those first classes without dropping or failing, lest the ER be written up for the failure.

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I too have taught first classes, 'way back when, in the "good old days," when class sizes were 12 - 15,

and we could spend a lot of time with new people and coach them along, both online and by personal contact via phone. Effective pay rate with the extra coaching was probably getting close to minimum wage then.

I was successful is getting at least a couple of people up to speed and seeing them do well and eventually graduate. (Those who kept in contact. I hope there were a lot more.)

That's when UoP had a relatively good rep and we did help unprepared people do college work, learn and be successful.

But class of 40+ ... ! ? No way ----- and UoP's rep goes father down.

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I teach one of the first classes, it’s been awful. Students don’t know how to do their work, think using a cell phone is sufficient, and write incomplete sentences and thought.

Then they ask for accommodations because their advisor said to ask and told them I should help them pass the class. That only punished those who did the work in the first place.

Now imagine 40+ of them....

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Add to this the expectations of many students as it relates to online schooling. The ubiquitous TV adverts hammer two themes--easy and money. You can go to college in your PJs, with your dog, spin in your chair, and through osmosis get (not earn) a degree. Once you do as little as possible, you will be on the fast track to $25k more a year or $1 million more in a lifetime. The pay numbers are based on national averages, but what is the reality of increased earning potential with a degree from UoP, Devry, other for-profits? In addition, how does real earning potential of a UoP degree square with the overall cost of the degree?

I suspect this easy money theme is also part of the corporate recruitment message. Is it a surprise that this sets up some students to quit as soon as they discover that actual work is required. Also, does the current policy add a bit of implied pressure that causes some "assistance" to occur--just enough to make sure student X makes it through the first course?

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